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included three americans and also a canadian and also someone from finland as well as somebody from the uk. should this be seen as a truly transnational group? does the nairobi attack indicate a new level of operational ability we didn't know this group had? and what is the response to this attack likely to be in joining us is nbc news terrorist analyst evan kohlmann, senior partner at flashpoint global partners. evan, thanks for being here. >> thank you very much. >> first of all, can you shed any light for us on whether or not this attack at the nairobi mall is, in fact, over? >> you know, we're still not clear. there have been tweets that were coming out from a purported shabaab account as early as today. so we're not sure to the degree with which they were still in contact with the individuals there, was this even really the voice of shabaab, and the kenyan government, how reliable are they in terms of saying it's over when they've said it's over, it's over, it's over and it's over and it's still not over, so -- >> we've seen kenyan forces moving in for about 20 hours. in terms of the
included three americans and also a canadian and also someone from finland as well as somebody from the uk. should this be seen as a truly transnational group? does the nairobi attack indicate a new level of operational ability we didn't know this group had? and what is the response to this attack likely to be in joining us is nbc news terrorist analyst evan kohlmann, senior partner at flashpoint global partners. evan, thanks for being here. >> thank you very much. >> first of all,...
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and it was the uk moment that was sort of the straw that broke the president's back on this one, and that's why he's going to congress. >> and there was always concern about the legal basis for a military strike. a change at the 11th hour, as you say. chuck todd, thanks very much this morning. >>> let me turn now to senator chris murphy, democrat from connecticut. and senator, on the one hand he's coming to congress. perhaps that pleases you. but you also heard the president say in chuck's reporting and in his statement yesterday he's decided to use military force. >> well, listen, i think this is the right move the come to congress. i don't think we want to go into this kind of serious military action as a nation divided. and i frankly think that the time it's going to take to have this debate will allow for more deliberation. i agree with president kerry this is a moral obscenity. the question is, is military action actually going to make the situation better on the ground for the syrian people and how do you make sure this doesn't escalate into something much more damaging and muc
and it was the uk moment that was sort of the straw that broke the president's back on this one, and that's why he's going to congress. >> and there was always concern about the legal basis for a military strike. a change at the 11th hour, as you say. chuck todd, thanks very much this morning. >>> let me turn now to senator chris murphy, democrat from connecticut. and senator, on the one hand he's coming to congress. perhaps that pleases you. but you also heard the president say...
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. >> looming over this debate, time and time again has been the spectre of iraq, most recently the uk parliament, many members cited the failure of intelligence leading up to iraq as the reason that they won't take action now in syria. because they don't trust the u.s. intelligence, do you personally take any responsibility for that or feel any responsibility for that? >> well, i think that the intelligence community turned out to be wrong, and the presentation made by secretary of state colin powell proved out to be wrong. on the other hand, you had a brutal dictator in iraq who had used chemical weapons against his own people, used them against his neighbors, rebuffed 17 resolutions, and president bush got to the congress and got their support, and got the support of the u.n., and fashioned a very large coalition. so it seems to me that all the appropriate steps were taken. and the congress, a democratic congress voted for regime change in iraq. >> joining me now is msnbc contributor patrick murphy, a former congressman from pennsylvania who was the first iraq war veteran to serve i
. >> looming over this debate, time and time again has been the spectre of iraq, most recently the uk parliament, many members cited the failure of intelligence leading up to iraq as the reason that they won't take action now in syria. because they don't trust the u.s. intelligence, do you personally take any responsibility for that or feel any responsibility for that? >> well, i think that the intelligence community turned out to be wrong, and the presentation made by secretary of...
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national health system that was going to be something like what the british were doing at that time in the uk. which was instituting national health. of course, the republicans opposed it, just as they opposed medicare, lyndon johnson did it in '65 with some republican support but that was the rise of ronald reagan as telling us if we had medicare, we would end up as the soviet union. this has been an overarching theme and clinton knew that. begala and carville knew that too. this is a bedrock issue between the two parties. it remains so. so whatever the differences that clinton and obama have had over the last several years, they're trivial compared to the agreement about this fundamental concern. i think you're right about that. >> and, richard, i guess the big difference between the '90s and today, besides the fact they didn't get it through in the '90s, by having it rejected or fail in the 1990s, the issue went away after 1994. bill clinton wasn't pursuing it anymore. you know the obama world very well. has it surprised them that since the three and a half years that it made it through co
national health system that was going to be something like what the british were doing at that time in the uk. which was instituting national health. of course, the republicans opposed it, just as they opposed medicare, lyndon johnson did it in '65 with some republican support but that was the rise of ronald reagan as telling us if we had medicare, we would end up as the soviet union. this has been an overarching theme and clinton knew that. begala and carville knew that too. this is a bedrock...
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>> i think the uk parliament vote last week was a major blow for the united states in assembling a broad coalition. france has announced its support for action and i think we may see some other key western allies like the australians alongside. but, you know, for the military action itself, there isn't a great need for other countries to do the work, so it could be a diplomatic coalition that could be much, much broader than those with military capabilities. >> steven, how do you see a diplomatic coalition coming together or will? >> in april 2010, barack obama and joe biden hosted here in washington, d.c. a summit of the world leaders to come in and talk about the proliferation of nuclear, buy l-- biological and chemical weapons and they said the world can't have these kind of weapons. i suspect that if they are not in the direct military line of sight, a lot of these nations are willing to sign up as long as it's more symbolic support. but i think that does matter at this point. we did see an extraordinary action from the arab league. tamara may know better than i do. the arab league s
>> i think the uk parliament vote last week was a major blow for the united states in assembling a broad coalition. france has announced its support for action and i think we may see some other key western allies like the australians alongside. but, you know, for the military action itself, there isn't a great need for other countries to do the work, so it could be a diplomatic coalition that could be much, much broader than those with military capabilities. >> steven, how do you...
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david cameron and the uk debate. secretary kerry is calling his peers around the world saying, military action's imminent. cameron goes to it is house floor, the parliamentary floor. if he knew he had another week or two, had he known that congress was going to be debating this, would he have used that time to get his house in order? >> let katty answer that. the answer's no, isn't it? >> i don't think it would have changed much minds in london. my sense is lawmakers decided they did not want to get invoved in another middle east operation when the outcome wasn't certain and the track record of the west getting involved in the arab world has not been that great. -- with an american operation -- >> you can't blame the white house for cameron's failures -- >> for god sake, okay, they're british. okay, they don't have the resolve of the french. the french are with us! come on. when have the british ever been side by side with us in a war? >> i'm simply saying, katty -- >> let's listen. let's talks about the president of
david cameron and the uk debate. secretary kerry is calling his peers around the world saying, military action's imminent. cameron goes to it is house floor, the parliamentary floor. if he knew he had another week or two, had he known that congress was going to be debating this, would he have used that time to get his house in order? >> let katty answer that. the answer's no, isn't it? >> i don't think it would have changed much minds in london. my sense is lawmakers decided they...
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the week's vents with all of the decisions to put the issue before congress, with the uk, parliament voting against uk participation, military action and the french saying they're not going to do anything without the u.n., putin finds himself at a advantage. now he wants to press the issue as much as possible and gain high ground. if not to head off a u.s. action, to make sure it's a u.s. unilateral action that everybody else is criticizing and he's made the point where this is a mistake. >> we all know the president described him as the bored kid at the back of the classroom at that news conference last month. some have said putin bristled at the description, you have said he cultivated that. >> he likes to be underestimated. you may say why, he's the leader of one of the powerful countries in the world. he likes to have the element of surprise. he likes people to think he's going to do one thing and do another. this is part of the training he's had throughout his career. first as one as a really proficient where judo is a sport where you have to put your opponent off balancing also
the week's vents with all of the decisions to put the issue before congress, with the uk, parliament voting against uk participation, military action and the french saying they're not going to do anything without the u.n., putin finds himself at a advantage. now he wants to press the issue as much as possible and gain high ground. if not to head off a u.s. action, to make sure it's a u.s. unilateral action that everybody else is criticizing and he's made the point where this is a mistake....
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it's the same for us in the uk. same for you in the u.s. the issue for europe, frankly, is it prepared to reform? under the pressure of the crisis europe is reforming but it has to see reforms through. and in many ways the reforms that were done in germany over the past ten year s or so that delivered a strong german economy today. are we going to take that lesson, learn it ourselves and apply it. >> tony blair, great to have you on. i always remember you and your wife and your beautiful young children. i read now here your son just got married. >> oh, my. >> are we that old? >> wow. >> they grow up, yeah. >> what happened? that's fantastic. >> he got older. >> congratulations. look! >> are you ready to be a grandparent? you're not ready, are you? >> i'm a little conflicted on that actually. >> oh, look at you. you look shocked. >> the day someone shouts grandpa and you turn around, hmm. i don't know. i have to get used to that. >> it's a good thing. >> oh, my gosh. best to your wife. great to see you. >> thank you very much. walter isaacso
it's the same for us in the uk. same for you in the u.s. the issue for europe, frankly, is it prepared to reform? under the pressure of the crisis europe is reforming but it has to see reforms through. and in many ways the reforms that were done in germany over the past ten year s or so that delivered a strong german economy today. are we going to take that lesson, learn it ourselves and apply it. >> tony blair, great to have you on. i always remember you and your wife and your beautiful...
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you start looking at it, and there's france, there's the uk, there's it turkey, saudi arabia. but you look at some of these other countries, not just russia for this, china is not for this, brazil is not for this. so you start looking at these other countries and they're not going to see -- the president is going to see that the world is as skeptical about this as the folks he's dealing with back in congress. >> chuck, it's katty here in washington. when you and i went to the briefing on saturday at the white house, it was quite clear that they don't see this as a humanitarian intervention. they're not talking about the moral case for helping the syrian people and all of the syrians who have been affected. this is specifically about chemical weapons. is that an argument perhaps that the world will listen to? even if they think that it's been presented fuzzily? isn't there a case to be made we cannot allow countries to use chemical weapons? >> well, you would -- i think what they're struggling with and admit is a struggle is the rhetoric about chemical weapons from john kerry,
you start looking at it, and there's france, there's the uk, there's it turkey, saudi arabia. but you look at some of these other countries, not just russia for this, china is not for this, brazil is not for this. so you start looking at these other countries and they're not going to see -- the president is going to see that the world is as skeptical about this as the folks he's dealing with back in congress. >> chuck, it's katty here in washington. when you and i went to the briefing on...
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they're not going to get these extra layers of support behind france -- besides france, uk and turkey. what they had going into the g-20 is what they have coming out. so now they have to play catch-up. he canceled his monday trip to los angeles because they got to start working the phones. interestingly, david went public on the speech plans with what i've heard, because of football, sunday and monday are out. it seems to point to a tuesday night very dramatic moment where the president's got to rally the public and give political cover to these members of congress. but boy, this is tough. it looks like this public hand wringing that the president and the white house have done has not been very flattering to his leadership. >> no. it doesn't. chuck todd, thank you so much. we greatly appreciate it. looking forward to having you back. david, let me go to you. anybody that's been -- you read the president's club and talk to anybody that's been inside the white house like you, and they'll tell you, being president of the united states is the loneliest job in the world. got a lot lonelier
they're not going to get these extra layers of support behind france -- besides france, uk and turkey. what they had going into the g-20 is what they have coming out. so now they have to play catch-up. he canceled his monday trip to los angeles because they got to start working the phones. interestingly, david went public on the speech plans with what i've heard, because of football, sunday and monday are out. it seems to point to a tuesday night very dramatic moment where the president's got...
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you are dealing with economic issues in the uk and austerity. you have socialized medicine. how do you view the debate about obamacare and what we are talking about? >> parts of the debate are very familiar. there is a debate about austerity, cuts, not cuts and the drama at the moment in washington about the deficit and so forth. that's familiar. we're also dealing with this huge black hole in public finances. in relation to the size of the economy we have a bigger problem that we have been trying to sort out. on the health care thing the dethe bait d debate is different. we are used to the national health service. i'm proud of it. it means everybody, rich or poor, if they have something wrong and they need access to good health care they can get it free at the point of use. not based on what you earn. it is based on need. that is a principle that runs deep in britain across the whole political spectrum. to that extent the debate is different. >> does it seem silly to you? >> not tat all. it's a serious issue. how much more serious can it be than providing health care to peo
you are dealing with economic issues in the uk and austerity. you have socialized medicine. how do you view the debate about obamacare and what we are talking about? >> parts of the debate are very familiar. there is a debate about austerity, cuts, not cuts and the drama at the moment in washington about the deficit and so forth. that's familiar. we're also dealing with this huge black hole in public finances. in relation to the size of the economy we have a bigger problem that we have...
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if you will, is reflected in the trouble that david cameron has had convincing his own people in the uk of the case to strike syrian forces? >> well, yeah, i think you certainly could point to part of it. i think that is a key piece. i think the other piece is a thursday call with the hill went a little rougher than was expected, then they saw the poll numbers. i think the mix of all of those led them to think you do want greater public support behind you. when you talk to those working on this, right now they say if the vote was taken today they don't have it. they think they'll get there, and the briefings yesterday were said to have gone fairly well, but there is still a great deal of skepticism. i think the ghost of conflicts past is hovering over this congress and this administration, and in fact the american public. i think part of that is we've seen us go from 2 1/2 years from a minimalist approach to really 10 or 11 days of we really do need to act, so that escalation of butchery that's been met with rather sustained interest national indifference for years and all of a sudden a
if you will, is reflected in the trouble that david cameron has had convincing his own people in the uk of the case to strike syrian forces? >> well, yeah, i think you certainly could point to part of it. i think that is a key piece. i think the other piece is a thursday call with the hill went a little rougher than was expected, then they saw the poll numbers. i think the mix of all of those led them to think you do want greater public support behind you. when you talk to those working...